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| Re: How do you run DOS programs? [message #386 is a reply to message #382] |
Tue, 15 December 2015 22:13   |
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tienkhoanguyen
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DallasCHVN wrote on Tue, 15 December 2015 18:07Many of us use VMware or Dosbox, but some of us run DOS on real hardware. I was running FreeDOS 1.1 on an IBM ThinkCentre designed for Windows XP. How do you run DOS programs?
Jesus Christ!
Well I've heard of a few softwares where there are speed slow downs for modern systems. In other cases I've had experiences with experimenting with slow downs for my own softwares. That takes additional programming.
If you've ever heard of WWW.DOSGAMES.COM they have an extensive amount of help on running on DOSBox.
I prefer DOSBox 0.74 since it has been used with my controllers and the sound works in there.
To answer the question directly usually you would just type the name of the DOS program.
Thank you!!!
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| Re: How do you run DOS programs? [message #388 is a reply to message #387] |
Tue, 15 December 2015 23:39 |
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tienkhoanguyen
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I see. I suggest on older hardware to see if you can find a 25mhz hardware. DOSBox 0.74 at 3000 cycles for all of my games are at 3000 cycles. According to my research and calibration 3000 cycles is close to 25mhz. So if you run on old hardware you should buy one that is that speed and have true MS-DOS installed on there for my games.
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| Re: How do you run DOS programs? [message #408 is a reply to message #400] |
Wed, 16 December 2015 09:56 |
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tienkhoanguyen
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Jesus Christ! Real hardware is cool. I have MS-DOS 6.22 on my VirtualBox on Windows 10. So I think I'll start developing in MS-DOS 6.22 except I might have a timing issue since VirtualBox might not calibrate it correctly. However, I'll think of a way to develop games that are not timing sensitive. For instance math problems and such doesn't require timing.
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| Re: How do you run DOS programs? [message #416 is a reply to message #409] |
Thu, 17 December 2015 17:53 |
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DOSBox is unbeatable really for pure DOS but once you get trying to run Windows on it you would be better off just using VirtualBox.
PCEM might be fun to try too.
Real hardware? I vaguely remember using a Windows 95 Thinkpad in the past but nothing DOS-based. The most time I've spent with DOS was when I got it running on a Raspberry Pi.
On a side note, installing DOS in QEMU isn't too difficult either. I had to do this to get it running on my site (Windows 3.1 in the end, but can exit to DOS) and it was relatively painless. QEMU Manager is possibly the buggiest piece of software ever written though, so I resorted to the command line.
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| Re: How do you run DOS programs? [message #427 is a reply to message #416] |
Thu, 17 December 2015 18:56 |
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meagain wrote on Thu, 17 December 2015 17:53
On a side note, installing DOS in QEMU isn't too difficult either. I had to do this to get it running on my site (Windows 3.1 in the end, but can exit to DOS) and it was relatively painless. QEMU Manager is possibly the buggiest piece of software ever written though, so I resorted to the command line.
I've played with qemu/kvm last weekend but I've found that it does not support old network cards like NE2000 anymore, so it's impossible to get networked DOS on it...
Do you have different experience with it?
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| Re: How do you run DOS programs? [message #430 is a reply to message #427] |
Thu, 17 December 2015 19:05 |
meagain
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Well...
I use QEMU / KVM to power the remote VMs on my site. Currently they are set to disable the network controller to prevent abuse, but sometimes when I need to upgrade the software etc I renable the network card and on Win95/98 at least it just needs the default drivers from the Windows CDROM.
Not sure about DOS but I found this: link which looks as if it might work.
PCEM / PCEM-X might be a good option too.
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| Re: How do you run DOS programs? [message #451 is a reply to message #432] |
Thu, 17 December 2015 22:16 |
meagain
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But it causes BSODs in 64-bit Windows 10.
The VM I use depends on the OS. Running Windows 10 in DOSBox will not work, as will running DOS in VMWare ESXi. You have to get the right product.
There's no one-size-fits-all approach
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| Re: How do you run DOS programs? [message #673 is a reply to message #382] |
Tue, 05 January 2016 23:10 |
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tienkhoanguyen
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I use DOSBox 0.74 now a days. I gave away my MS-DOS 6.22 when I returned it "open-box" to BestBuy. Ouch that hurts however I'm lucky klkl (kool luck kool luck). So who ever bought that opened boxed that I bought brand new and had to return because I couldn't afford to keep it is having a good value. I do not know if it is still there since I returned it about two weeks ago. I could not return it knowing it is opened so I had to put my own softwares in it. Thank you God that I have people who return the favor! Borland gave away Borland Turbo C 2.01 when I registered with their sister website embarcadero. DOSBox 0.74 is free at the time I downloaded it so it mimics MS-DOS that I lost just enough to make what I needed to work in any modern system. So now I can program games for any modern system and people can play my videogames just by downloading DOSBox and my games that I leave on here. Thank you God also for making me two perfect parents that made me into a perfect game programmer for DOS. My dad Nguyen Binh Thuy is the harshest on me however I am disciplined now enough to focus and make it work. My mom Huong Thi Vu is also almost that harsh too however subtly she is just making me feel good so I don't feel the pain my dad put me through when I was young. I'm happy now thanks to Jesus Christ for the rest of my life and for the rest of forever and for the rest of eternity!!!!!!!!!!!!
Honours: Nguyen Binh Thuy
Honours: Huong Thi Vu
http://tiendosware.conforums.com
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| Re: How do you run DOS programs? [message #5296 is a reply to message #673] |
Mon, 03 April 2023 23:15 |
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Now that I only have space for a single computer, a little Dell OptiPlex 3020 Micro running Windows 10 Pro, I run DOS virts in VirtualBox to play with my favorite DOS programs. Currently I have two small virts each with 4MB RAM and 720MB disk, one running MS-DOS 6.22 and the other running FreeDOS 1.3, both working quite nicely. I tried using Hyper-V but found the 1GB minimum disk size a waste of disk space. I've also played around with DOSbox, but found its emulation doesn't play well with certain programs like 1dir+ that make use of undocumented DOS interrupts.
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